Welcome to the latest installment of the MMA Dude Bro Podcast, hosted by Ken Rodriquez.

On this episode, Ken was joined by UFC play-by-play commentator Brendan Fitzgerald. The pair discussed Fitzgerald’s run-in with an MMA legend during one of his first on-air appearances, how being a part of the layoffs at ESPN turned out to be just what his career needed and his understanding of how MMA fans are always leery of outsiders.

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